Wartime is the Right Time for Rights?
February 8, 2010 by James Hipps
There’s seems to be an ongoing debate over repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and how some (typically your conservative, gay un-friendly, Republicans) think doing so during a time when the U.S. in engaged in a war or two, would be detrimental to our national security.
There’s an interesting perspective on this debate over at L.A. Progressive. Below is an excerpt:
As the Obama Administration moves (slowly) toward repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, one argument in opposition is that the nation is at war, and fundamental changes in the military should not take place during wartime. One response to that point is that all hands are needed during heightened military deployments, and it harms American national security to dismiss trained soldiers. But there is a more fundamental reason why the argument against change during wartime doesn’t work: there is no end in sight to the war on terror. And endless war cannot be a reason for permanent stasis in military policy.
The no-change-during-wartime argument is an example of conventional thinking about war and American society. “Wartime” is imagined to be a temporary condition. It is a special kind of time. Wartime, by definition, is preceded and followed by “peacetime.” American history is thought to consist of the movement from peacetime to wartime and back again. In this conceptualization, wartimes always comes to an end.
This idea that wartime is by definition a temporary time is an essential ingredient of the argument that social change shouldn’t happen in wartime. This is presented as an argument that does not challenge change itself, but simply asks advocates of change to be patient. Change can come after the war is over.
But what if there is no end to war?
United States military deployment overseas has been on-going since at least World War II.
The last sentence in the excerpt above is what strikes me as the “a-ha” of the argument against repealing the law. To dissect that a little more, the U.S. hasn’t gone two complete decades without being involved in a “war”, counting the “police action” of Vietnam.
So what does this tell us? No startling conclusions. The whole “war-time” excuse, is exactly that…an excuse. And again, if gay and lesbian men and women are serving their country in the armed forces, why should they be denied the right to marry…or denied any other right that any other American citizen is granted?
This is just another ploy by the anti-gay right right to keep the LGBT community as second class.
Oh, and one last thing, just in case the anti-gay right wasn’t aware, gays and lesbians have been fighting for the U.S. Armed Forces since they were established.



Even conservative Az senator Barry Goldwater back in ‘93 said we should not be trying to legislate morality, and that is what DADT was designed to do. He knew there was no valid reason for prohibiting gay soldiers.
We know the troops will adapt and 3/4 already know someone who is gay and already there. And the rest know we are already there and have been there since there were armies. We know other armies have adjusted just fine and we are already working with them. We know we will too. We need to end this charade now and accept reality. It’s long past time to act like grownups and remove discrimination based on prejudice from the law.
But this won’t go away easily. “Nothing dies so hard, or rallies so often as intolerance.” (Beecher) This is not about all of those excuses. This is about the need to maintain the cultural taboo. When all of the excuses for the taboo have been exposed as nothing more than prejudice, the taboo dies. As long as they can say we should be punished by being made to hide the most important relationships in our lives, they can justify denial of equal treatment in other areas as well.
It is time to stop accommodating prejudice. That was the purpose of DADT. As long as we continue to accommodate it, we teach that it is valid. It is not. Prejudice has no place in our society or in our laws. It is past time to commit this institutionalization of prejudice to the dust bins of history. End it now.
If we waited for civil equality in time of peace, there would be none.
I remember the civil rights movement. Some segregationalists granted that integration was a good idea, but said we should do it gradually, because it might have a bad effect on black people. “Gradually” is code for “never.”
Say say the least appropriate time to be free is when we are fighting for freedom. I say they are nuts.
I concur!